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	<title>Comments on: Is Ping.fm a Lame Data-Mining Op? Or is it Just Annoying?</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://netzoo.net/is-pingfm-a-lame-data-mining-op-or-is-it-just-annoying/comment-page-1/#comment-112283</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having my twitter and facebook statuses synchronised is great, as is being able to update twitter via IM since they broke that. I love ping.fm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having my twitter and facebook statuses synchronised is great, as is being able to update twitter via IM since they broke that. I love ping.fm!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Sternberg</title>
		<link>http://netzoo.net/is-pingfm-a-lame-data-mining-op-or-is-it-just-annoying/comment-page-1/#comment-111859</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Sternberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Matt. The service I should really be slamming is Disqus -- I just noticed that the initial comments on this post have vanished since I began using Disqus... I will dig them out of the ether if I can and republish. I was harsh on Ping.Fm initially -- it was a Day 1 first look review and I agree that I owe it a second look. Ryan and Sean of Ping.Fm commented on this post and explained what they were up to, changing and addressed my concerns. I guess I was the one doing the Wheaties-pissing. I&#039;m ready to give ping.fm another shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Matt. The service I should really be slamming is Disqus &#8212; I just noticed that the initial comments on this post have vanished since I began using Disqus&#8230; I will dig them out of the ether if I can and republish. I was harsh on Ping.Fm initially &#8212; it was a Day 1 first look review and I agree that I owe it a second look. Ryan and Sean of Ping.Fm commented on this post and explained what they were up to, changing and addressed my concerns. I guess I was the one doing the Wheaties-pissing. I&#39;m ready to give ping.fm another shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://netzoo.net/is-pingfm-a-lame-data-mining-op-or-is-it-just-annoying/comment-page-1/#comment-111858</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh ... next time someone pisses in your wheaties, try not to take it out on a service that is doing a good job and others find plenty of use for it (personally, I love ping.fm + socialthing).  I&#039;d recommend taking it out on whoever did piss your wheaties :P&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just because YOU don&#039;t like it, doesn&#039;t make it a crappy service.  It just means you don&#039;t like it, and that&#039;s ok.  No one is forcing you to use it.  Go on your merry way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh &#8230; next time someone pisses in your wheaties, try not to take it out on a service that is doing a good job and others find plenty of use for it (personally, I love ping.fm + socialthing).  I&#39;d recommend taking it out on whoever did piss your wheaties <img src='http://netzoo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just because YOU don&#39;t like it, doesn&#39;t make it a crappy service.  It just means you don&#39;t like it, and that&#39;s ok.  No one is forcing you to use it.  Go on your merry way.</p>
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		<title>By: jefforysimmons</title>
		<link>http://netzoo.net/is-pingfm-a-lame-data-mining-op-or-is-it-just-annoying/comment-page-1/#comment-111851</link>
		<dc:creator>jefforysimmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fool</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s [Not] Up With Twitter Today? &#124; netZoo.net &#124; WOOZradio</title>
		<link>http://netzoo.net/is-pingfm-a-lame-data-mining-op-or-is-it-just-annoying/comment-page-1/#comment-109271</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s [Not] Up With Twitter Today? &#124; netZoo.net &#124; WOOZradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] until a few refreshes delivered Andrew Mager&#8217;s latest tweet as distributed via ping.fm. Twhirl is experiencing API limit exceeded after only a few minutes operation which is indubitably [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] until a few refreshes delivered Andrew Mager&#8217;s latest tweet as distributed via ping.fm. Twhirl is experiencing API limit exceeded after only a few minutes operation which is indubitably [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean and Ryan.

Thanks for the response.  I am the one who posted this post in your forums (it says &quot;nameless&quot; for some reason).  Anyway, thanks for addressing these issues.  It should be normal for users to question the motives of startups when have yet to introduce yourselves to the community in a big way.  You gotta respect that.  We do see you have a blog an forum.  It is great that you removed the &quot;I am now...!&quot; but there is doubt helped you guys gain major traction on 3/18/08.  For better transparency, maybe you could put something about yourselves personally int he About Us section instead of Andy having to sleuth around and find out what the names behind this service are and what what your motives might be.  I am sure your motives are to help users kick ass and save time, but it just needed a tad more transparency here social media land where it is easy to call this stuff out.

thanks guys.

~Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean and Ryan.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response.  I am the one who posted this post in your forums (it says &#8220;nameless&#8221; for some reason).  Anyway, thanks for addressing these issues.  It should be normal for users to question the motives of startups when have yet to introduce yourselves to the community in a big way.  You gotta respect that.  We do see you have a blog an forum.  It is great that you removed the &#8220;I am now&#8230;!&#8221; but there is doubt helped you guys gain major traction on 3/18/08.  For better transparency, maybe you could put something about yourselves personally int he About Us section instead of Andy having to sleuth around and find out what the names behind this service are and what what your motives might be.  I am sure your motives are to help users kick ass and save time, but it just needed a tad more transparency here social media land where it is easy to call this stuff out.</p>
<p>thanks guys.</p>
<p>~Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no mining of any sort.  It&#039;s sad that you would even accuse us of such.  But, I did get rid of the authentication messages per mass user request and by the discovery of your post here.  Thanks for the feedback, in all honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no mining of any sort.  It&#8217;s sad that you would even accuse us of such.  But, I did get rid of the authentication messages per mass user request and by the discovery of your post here.  Thanks for the feedback, in all honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Merket</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Merket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andy, 

Thanks for trying Ping.fm. Re your tweets about us sending out an auto tweet after you register Twitter: This is a requirement do to the Twitter API -- because there is no authentication protocol! We have to perform an action in order to get a 1 - yes or 0 - no.

I hope you understand.

Have a wonderful day!

Ryan
ryan@ping.fm

PS: If you have any furhter questions, please don&#039;t hesitate to e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andy, </p>
<p>Thanks for trying Ping.fm. Re your tweets about us sending out an auto tweet after you register Twitter: This is a requirement do to the Twitter API &#8212; because there is no authentication protocol! We have to perform an action in order to get a 1 &#8211; yes or 0 &#8211; no.</p>
<p>I hope you understand.</p>
<p>Have a wonderful day!</p>
<p>Ryan<br />
<a href="mailto:ryan@ping.fm">ryan@ping.fm</a></p>
<p>PS: If you have any furhter questions, please don&#8217;t hesitate to e-mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Sternberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Sternberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wanted to think I was overreacting,  Nick, but when I checked out the other sites this &quot;Standard Antics &quot;company&quot; is behind I found it harder and harder to take them seriously. I&#039;m also hesitant to give the developers too much credit -- there&#039;s a lot you can do with open APIs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wanted to think I was overreacting,  Nick, but when I checked out the other sites this &#8220;Standard Antics &#8220;company&#8221; is behind I found it harder and harder to take them seriously. I&#8217;m also hesitant to give the developers too much credit &#8212; there&#8217;s a lot you can do with open APIs.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Andy.
I tend to think that all of the effort the developers have put into this and a traction they have gained today would be of more value to them long term rather than to use it for some sort of scam.  I am sure they will respond to your complains as soon as possible of face more posts just like yours.  But in the meantime, people might want to refrain from signing up until these issues are addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Andy.<br />
I tend to think that all of the effort the developers have put into this and a traction they have gained today would be of more value to them long term rather than to use it for some sort of scam.  I am sure they will respond to your complains as soon as possible of face more posts just like yours.  But in the meantime, people might want to refrain from signing up until these issues are addressed.</p>
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